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ruggbutt
28th January 2008, 06:36 PM
Must be nice to have support from the devs.

Fudd
28th January 2008, 11:19 PM
Must be nice to have support from the devs.

Sweet.... you know.... I did install Open Falcon and I dunno if it was the new monitor but the outside landscape was pretty "livable."

Open falcon is still buggy for me... I need to do research but TrackIr isn't working and some of my X52 isn't functional.

I'll probably install AF (I have it already) and see it if it catches my interest. I could walk away from it too easily before, but thats when I had earlier versions of LockOn.

Cheer's dudes

Kuky
29th January 2008, 12:25 AM
get ArmA you.... Fudd :rolleyes:

Cali
29th January 2008, 01:26 AM
I'm going to install Open Falcon and F4-AF also and see what they look like again. I have always heard the DC in F4 was the best.

eldiablo
29th January 2008, 01:30 PM
Hello guys ! I use Falcon OF and AF as well , but AF is a bit worse than OF. Graphics isn't beatifull , it doesn't have all the weapons , and the DC doesn't work as soon as OF. OF is a more complex and complete...virtually real :lol:
The sounds are good , the lights internal and external , too much stuff selectable in cockpit , in OF you can choose even settings for the oxygen mask in Ramp !
Cali , my suggestion is try all two , if you want , but no one is as OF. The only bug to fix is GPS Guided Bombs, they don't work as real , as Red Viper ( another version of 'Microprose'Falcon4 ) do .
If you need any help for install the games , let me know :rolleyes:
I think Red Viper could likes Kuky ... the graphics works fine, not as lock on for sure , but it's great. Problem of Red Viper is internet stability ...
Just my 2 cents
CYA:wink:

Fudd
29th January 2008, 03:36 PM
ElDiablo your english is getting better! Improves all the time!

Prophet
29th January 2008, 06:47 PM
get ArmA you.... Fudd :rolleyes:

I didnt think you like the game Kuky...

Kuky
29th January 2008, 07:47 PM
having played with Tweet and Grimes for a few days it's getting better... I think good team work and bit of better tactics and more knowledge on how the game works lets me improve :smile:

Cali
29th January 2008, 07:47 PM
Hello guys ! I use Falcon OF and AF as well , but AF is a bit worse than OF. Graphics isn't beatifull , it doesn't have all the weapons , and the DC doesn't work as soon as OF. OF is a more complex and complete...virtually real :lol:
The sounds are good , the lights internal and external , too much stuff selectable in cockpit , in OF you can choose even settings for the oxygen mask in Ramp !
Cali , my suggestion is try all two , if you want , but no one is as OF. The only bug to fix is GPS Guided Bombs, they don't work as real , as Red Viper ( another version of 'Microprose'Falcon4 ) do .
If you need any help for install the games , let me know :rolleyes:
I think Red Viper could likes Kuky ... the graphics works fine, not as lock on for sure , but it's great. Problem of Red Viper is internet stability ...
Just my 2 cents
CYA:wink:

Maybe I'll install OF first then and see how that is. Thx for the info eldiablo :smile:

Prophet
2nd February 2008, 06:16 PM
I have no problem flying F4. Sure the graphics are dated, but sometimes when you want to fly a real mission, where you have a real war going on, and real ToT to meet, its just a lot of fun.

Once everyone decides what version they want to fly. I have AF, and one of the older Red Vipers installed. Just havent been able to use it much. I used to fly on MultiVipers server, which is awsome when people are there cause they are all very learned in F4.

eldiablo
3rd February 2008, 11:45 AM
Naaa not so dated ...only it's not as Lock On . For anywho has followed the falcon patches in recent years , grafics has become a pearl :very happy:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/lasa4.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/lasa3.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/lasa2.jpg

... I like it :wink:

189th Rex
3rd February 2008, 11:51 AM
That's OpenFalcon right? I have RedViper, I can't get OF because I don't have an original F4, RV can install over AF so it's good. Don't really play it, just feels strange to me, I'll wait 'till FO to deviate from LO. Still, I must say that some of the effects in RV far surpass those of Flaming Cliffs, launching an AIM-120 is just downright cool. Also, get this... the AMRAAM... it... it... ACTUALLY WORKS!

eldiablo
3rd February 2008, 09:51 PM
Yup ! This is Open Falcon ...4.5 patch applyed , I have Red Viper , but not for AF , for Microprose Falcon 4.0, i like it as well , but OF is ... a rush of adrenaline in more than Red Viper:tongue:
CYA

eldiablo
8th February 2008, 08:03 PM
WOWWWW !! I have try to set my TIR for OF and fix the canopy .. check the result !! :shok:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_190941-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_191032.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_190721.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_181526.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_191414.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/eldiablo155/2008-02-08_191001.jpg


I like my neew TIR

skru_luse
11th February 2008, 12:47 AM
Ive been looking at Falcon for a long time, what would i need to get the most " updated " version ( Expansions Ect ect..)

eldiablo
11th February 2008, 10:42 AM
The best expansion of Falcon I think it's Open Falcon version 4.5, 4.6 should arrive soon. The problem you can run into if you choose this version is that the product Microprose Falcon 4.0, which should apply the patch, it is no longer commercially, and it is difficult to find, at least in Italy, I don't know if you could find more easily, perhaps you can try to take a look at some e.bay or resale online. In any case, you can find all information about installation on the forum Global Falcon at this link http://globalfalcon.org/vb/forums/ . Using this simulator is not simple, need to study the manual patching and try some of those missions, in version 4.5, have tutorials that show you the way how can do somethings, but once you learned it's easier than lock on because through its instruments have a greater SA, although still a not easy simulator .
CYA:wink:

skru_luse
11th February 2008, 10:29 PM
I cant seem to find a download for Open falcon, I just installed Falcon 4.0 Af from the orignal disk ver 1.00.1.2 Or somehting like that And I was wondering if there are any patches i should get and if so where

Thx El diablo

Cobra
11th February 2008, 11:26 PM
sorry i dont know anything about open falcon ..

but here is a link to the Falcon AF website and on there you can find the patches for AF

Lead Pursuit (http://www.lead-pursuit.com/news.htm)

:smile:

skru_luse
12th February 2008, 12:40 AM
Ok, I downloaded the vewest patch, Now all I need is open falcon :smile:

Cobra
12th February 2008, 01:01 AM
i dont know much about Falcon and the mods .. but i just re-read the above posts and it appears the only mod that applies over AF is Red Viper.

Open Falcon is a mod for the original Falcon 4 form Microprose. (this is different to the latest release called Allied Force.)

hope that clears it up a little.

:smile:

skru_luse
12th February 2008, 01:12 AM
Hmm ok, can someone confirm what cobra said will i need red viper or open falcon ?*

189th Rex
12th February 2008, 02:05 AM
Because you got AF, you've got two options right now. You could simply stay with Allied Force and sit comfy with your BEATIFUL Aeyes cockpit without any further fuss or crashes. Or, you could BitTorrent RedViper (only way to get it so far as I know) and get the insanely improved graphics and every jet playable, at the cost of stability and poorer cockpit (you can purchase the Aeyes version from his site, but that's money). I chose RedViper because I couldn't live with AF's graphics, and I am very pleased at being able to fly the F-22 and other jets, even if you have to do it in an F-16 cockpit.

skru_luse
12th February 2008, 02:17 AM
Rgr Red Viper inbound

Its a confusing sim, I only wish you could zoom out more :sad:

but other than that I love it

Prophet
12th February 2008, 03:25 AM
Because you got AF, you've got two options right now. You could simply stay with Allied Force and sit comfy with your BEATIFUL Aeyes cockpit without any further fuss or crashes. Or, you could BitTorrent RedViper (only way to get it so far as I know) and get the insanely improved graphics and every jet playable, at the cost of stability and poorer cockpit (you can purchase the Aeyes version from his site, but that's money). I chose RedViper because I couldn't live with AF's graphics, and I am very pleased at being able to fly the F-22 and other jets, even if you have to do it in an F-16 cockpit.

Hasnt there been work on other cockpits, like F15 and Mig29?

189th Rex
12th February 2008, 03:54 AM
Yeah, but the default ones are really bad as a general rule, and the ones from Aeyes are beyond me for installation. I thought Lock-On was confusing, man, it's easy in comparison with regards to modifying. I don't think ModMan works with Falcon. :sad:

skru_luse
12th February 2008, 04:04 AM
Does anybody know the Red Viper website ?

Cali
12th February 2008, 05:03 AM
I installed both F4 and AF this weekend, and I can't get my resolution to 1680x1050 in both. In F4 I can't get a res higher the 800x600. I flow AF for a few minutes and I just had to laugh. The ground looked like crap, when I landed, skidded off the runway and hit a building...that had to be the funniest part. The way the jet broke into pieces had me :rofl:

I don't think I can get into flying these, but I'll try more and see. I do like the cockpit and the training. Since I work on F-16's it's pretty neat that I know what all those switches and gauges do. I haven't installed any mods, so I hope that they help.

skru_luse
12th February 2008, 07:42 AM
Well Open Falcon Gives you a much better cockpit, I pressed to many buttons and ended floating at Angels 35 Going " :confused: Oops.... Wont be doing that again "


Its Getting easier, And the graphics are getting better

189th Rex
13th February 2008, 03:01 AM
I just think I'll be waiting until FigtherOps to get into the Viper. Actually, I'd just have a new Eagle then... So I guess that means no F-16 for me. Fine. One of my main problems with Falcon is the training, I HATE having to just read a manual and hope for the best. Learning the Eagle was almost as hard for me (no combat sim experience before that) but at that point I had drive. I wanted to learn the F-15 so much it was killing me, it's such a great jet. I don't get much from the Viper, I like my F-15 better, and Lock-On gives much better feedback (you feel like you're flying, not gaming).

Cobra
13th February 2008, 05:58 AM
I just think I'll be waiting until FigtherOps to get into the Viper.

now your talking.

:red:

PS look out for an article at SimHQ coming up soon. (soon being a month or so.)

:smile:

189th Rex
13th February 2008, 11:12 PM
PS look out for an article at SimHQ coming up soon. (soon being a month or so.)

I'm two months ahead on that. Can't wait to see some new stuff. The new pics in Area 51 are absolutely insane, I almost started hugging my monitor!

=RvE=Yoda
15th February 2008, 02:38 AM
Well for all of you that have trouble installing
Of. I wrote a pretty much fool proof install guide,
available for all here : http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/communications/viewtopic.php?p=10251#10251

It also explains how to get your trackir and x52 working, Fudd ;)

Yeah cali, AF is pretty :wacko: , i cannot stand it.
OF : :cool:

For OF......do NOT NOT NOT use the 6dof mod.
Disable x and y axis, or HUD will be all over the place :)

=RvE=Yoda
18th February 2008, 02:49 AM
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189th Rex
18th February 2008, 07:39 AM
I'll put up a picture for contrast. It also illuminates the main reason I fly LO and not F4 - the Eagle.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/JETZcorp/Screenshots/ACTIVEsunrise.png
Someone remind me to take a leak in the Photobucket for scaling down this pic to 1/2

=RvE=Yoda
18th February 2008, 05:37 PM
While I do think the normal eagle is enjoyable :

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/14.png



With clickable (half the switches 3d, all clickable 2d) pit...

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/10.png




Altough...I do prefer this one, F-15E 229 Strike Eagle :P

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/11.png

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/12.png
(This one loaded with 6 mk82 LDGP model, 6 BLU-107, 2 JSOW AGM-154, slammers & 9x)

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/13.png


No photoshopping.
Btw you can now also install mod that allows for realistic f-15 ramp
start if im not completely mistaken

Not to forget the other flyables with pits :
Mirage2000
Hornet
Super Hornet
Tomcat

among a few ;)

Here are btw the available f15s. Advertisement!

http://www.reservoirs-elite.org/data/promo/yoda/images/f15s.gif

=RvE=Yoda
19th February 2008, 12:59 AM
Notes on redviper.

The version out now is a little unstable for me sometimes ingame,
but that is not the main reason for not picking it.

Pros with redviper:
New graphics engine, however this does not mean it necessarily
looks better than OF ( i prefer OF looks :)) but it is a LOT smoother
in terms of fps. Red Viper graphics focus a tad more on lighting effects.

Red Viper also has better 3d pit support for non-f16.
(Redviper has full 3d clickable strike eagle pit, man i wish we
had that)

Cons :
RV : Poor multiplayer code, from what i heard other
guys say it can make multiplayer with more than just a few people
virtually impossible.

RV : simplified (compared to OF) avionics

RV : Simpler physics for planes. Scripted shaking above 6g (URGH horrible ;))

Possibly simplified missile code as well, OF is very different from AF in weapon
systems, and most likely diff from rv as well.